W: I remember reading that Beck and you were an item.
Ryder: I know. When I read that, I thought, That's so cool! Wow! I wish! That's usually what my response is when I hear about a new guy I'm with.
W: Finding a person with enough nerve to ask you out can't be the easiest thing in the world.
Ryder: One major problem I have is that I rarely meet people who don't think they know things about me. Not to complain, because I know movie stars are just not allowed to complain. I've watched them try, and it doesn't quite work. I am so insanely blessed, and I have no reason to complain. So actually, I do believe there are people out there who know who I am who haven't made judgments— because I've met those people.
W: You do seem to have a thing about men in the music business.
Ryder: I grew up around the music industry. I have been going to shows my whole life. My dad took me to see the last Sex Pistols show at the Fillmore. I was seven. The famous one where Johnny Rotten said, "Ever feel like you've been cheated?"
W: Did you have a clue what was going on?
Ryder: Oh, yeah! I worshipped that music. I have every T-shirt and poster from every Ramones show, because my dad took me every single time they played. My mom was more folksy—she's from Minneapolis, more of a Dylan person.
W: Didn't you go off with Dave Pirner and live in Minneapolis for a while?
Ryder: Yeah, I love Minneapolis. There's such an incredible music scene there. It's where Dylan is from, and The Replacements, Husker Du, Soul Asylum...
W: You really know your music.
Ryder: I do, I do. It's another thing that comes up with guys— a lot of guys don't like it when you know more about music than them. Especially the whole area that includes Bruce Springsteen. Because I'm a die-hard Springsteen fanatic.
W: I thought you were a bit more alternative.
Ryder: Bruce isn't mainstream. Well, he is. There's a lose-lose thing for musicians that I don't subscribe to—if you sell anything, you're not cool anymore. I mean, when I read Catcher in the Rye, I truly believed I was the only person who understood this character. My dad gave that book to me when I was 10 or 11. Then I found out everyone had that same feeling about Holden Caulfield, and I was pissed. So, I can see where people could have the backlash.
W: Why don't you try to bring Salinger to the screen? Ryder: No! I remember saying this in an interview for an English magazine, for Heathers—they asked me what I would do if they made a movie of Catcher in the Rye, and I said I would bomb the set!
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