Jennifer Lawrence hiding behind Emma Stone.

Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence’s Chat About Anxiety Was Even More Candid Than You’d Expect

It’s no secret that Emma Stone has anxiety. She’s spoken openly about it practically ever since she catapulted to fame. Even after reaching such impressive levels of public honesty, though, it’s hard to imagine that any interviewer would ever ask Stone, on the record, for a September issue cover story, “What do you think caused your anxiety? Do you think you were born like that, or do you think something happened that made you extremely sensitive, or do you think that you’re naturally pathetic?” Unless, of course, that person is Jennifer Lawrence.

In case you weren’t aware of their bond, Stone and Lawrence have spent the past few years in the top tier of Hollywood’s reigning BFFs, which is why Stone decided to liven things up and put in the request to Elle for Lawrence, who calls Stone by her real name, Emily, to be the one asking her questions for a change.

Their friendly joking aside, it’s clear from the start that Lawrence knows Stone and her struggle with anxiety. And she articulates for Stone that acting, which Stone says her therapist is so thankful, on her part, that she discovered, is an “outlet”—aka a way for her “to take something like anxiety or pain and…turn it into something.”

It’s been that way for Stone, as she tells Lawrence, since she became interested in acting, before she thought ahead to the “other parts of it, like sitting here with the tape recorder in between us.” Stone started having panic attacks when she was 7, and at this point she seems to be used to them: “I think your wiring is just kind of what you are. My mom always says that I was born with my nerves outside of my body. But I’m lucky for the anxiety, because it also makes me high-energy.”

Often, that means a lot of phone calls with Lawrence on Stone’s "frequent sleepless nights,” as Lawrence points out. But to Stone, it’s also made it clear to her that she “really like[s] being alive”: “I haven’t shot anything for six months, which has been amazing because there’s been time to be with friends or travel,” she said.

Stone’s incessant ruminating has kicked into high gear lately, ahead of her 30th birthday, in November, and it has made her appreciate her friends. “You pick your family. You realize that your friendships, the people who go with you into these next phases of your life—you’re choosing your family,” she told Lawrence.

Lawrence then asked her why she doesn’t have “a big social media presence,” to which Stone gamely answers: “I think it wouldn’t be a positive thing for me. If people can handle that sort of output and input in the social media sphere, power to them.​” These days, though, Stone continued with a laugh, she’s able to let things like comments about what she wears or how she looks roll off her back, because “nobody really gives a shit at the end of the day except for me.”

She may disagree with Stone, but Lawrence soon outs herself as being part of that camp herself. “We were talking one night, and I was, like, passionately speaking about something and said, ‘Emily, you’ve been nominated for two Academy Awards!’ And she goes, ‘Jen, I won.’ And I was like, ‘You did!?’” Not that Stone has any hard feelings: “She was one of the first people to reach out to me when it happened, but she just blocked it out.” In any case, Lawrence makes up for her forgetfulness, ending the interview by telling Stone, “I’d be honored to father your children.”

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