As two of the most remarkable ladies to ever grace this earth, Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem have always been leading figures in regard to their no-nonsense, championing opinions on women’s rights. Unsurprisingly, this means they’ve been asked to weigh-in on the ongoing Harvey Weinstein scandal, who was accused earlier this month as being a serial sexual assaulter and harasser with a seemingly ever-growing list of victims in Hollywood. Swinging by All In with Chris Hayes last night to expound on their thinking, Fonda explained that despite reaching a point of no return for Weinstein and other Hollywood sexual harassers, there’s still a lot to be done about getting even more voices heard.

“It feels different. It feels like something has shifted,” Fonda said about the near-constant Weinstein allegations coming out almost every day. “It’s too bad that it’s probably because so many of the women that were assaulted by Harvey Weinstein are famous and white and everybody knows them. This has been going on a long time to black women and other women of color and it doesn’t get out quite the same. I think it’s so huge, this story, and so much is coming out that it went out for so long over so many countries. It’s made a big difference to the women who have come forward.”

Steinem also agreed that we’ve finally reached a “tipping point” when it comes to appropriately reprimanding sexual harassers, and she understands why it’s taken so long to get to this moment — it boils down to a strong bias against the accusers. “If you steal money, you probably get arrested and convicted, because everybody says stealing is wrong. But if you do something that is very sexist or racist, because there still is a critical mass of bias in this country, it takes more cumulative instances for it to be recognized,” she explained. “The important thing to remember is that it’s about power, and the idea you have to dominate in order to be sexual. That’s the fundamental problem.”

As of now, over four dozen women have bravely shared their stories about being harassed or assaulted by Weinstein throughout their respective careers.

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